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Subject: Re: Computer hardware and OS "survey"
From: harry {- at -} MRC-LMB {- dot -} CAM {- dot -} AC {- dot -} UK harry {- at -} MRC-LMB {- dot -} CAM {- dot -} AC {- dot -} UK
Date: 2009-05-01
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Subject: Re: Computer hardware and OS "survey"
From: "William G {- dot -} Scott" wgscott {- at -} CHEMISTRY {- dot -} UCSC {- dot -} EDU
Date: 2009-05-01


Subject: Re: Computer hardware and OS "survey"
From: Jacob Keller j-keller2 {- at -} MD {- dot -} NORTHWESTERN {- dot -} EDU
Date: 2009-05-01

I have found that cygwin works quite well for doing unix-type things on
windows--one can use whatever shell one likes, run perl scripts, etc. Have
people had problems with cygwin? I used to run CNS on it all the time.

Jacob

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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Computer hardware and OS "survey"


> Hi
>
> Most of the software for macromolecular crystallography data analysis will
> run happily on Linux, OS X or Windows. However, Windows is much more
> GUI-based and much less open to shell scripting than UNIX based systems
> like Linux or OS X (DOS-Shell is very inflexible, even compared to sh or
> csh, let alone tcsh, zsh or bash). Even Python scripts are often not 100%
> portable (some of the older scripting languages like Tcl are better inthis
> respect, in my experience).
>
> Having said that, nearly half the downloads of Mosflm are for the Windows
> version - but I have no figures on how many people actually use it, having
> got hold of a copy! In my hands, it works as well as on the other
> platforms. YMMV.
>
> If your home institution really wants you to drop Macs, then I think you
> have to insist on Linux with proper support - but that costs salaries!
>
> Just my two ha'porth.
>
>> My home institution, in effort to cut costs, is making an effort to push
>> those of us on Macs onto PCs. Up till now they have been very generous
>> via a lease program for computer hardware, but that is changing given the
>> current economics. The institution currently does not support Linux so
>> we
>> are limited to Mac and Windows OS.
>>
>> We certainly make use of William Scotts crystallography on OS X (thanks
>> so much!) so our main argument is that we would have far more support
>> "out there" for crystallography on the Mac than we would have for on
>> Windows. But to be fair (and hopefully bolster our argument) I should
>> find out if that is true. I did not find an equal web support page for
>> Windows.
>>
>> A volunteer survey will be distorted (probably by Mac fanboys like me) so
>> I am asking for peoples best guesstimate as to what % use of Mac,
>> Windows, or Linux is out there for data processing and model building.
>> Our core programs are coot, o, pymol, cns, and ccp4 but we certainly make
>> occasional use of other crystallography programs out there (solve,
>> epmr...)
>>
>> Also what are the relative crystallography support for Mac vs. Windows.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>>
>> --
>> Todd M. Link
>> Assistant Professor
>> MD Anderson Cancer Center
>> Univ. of Texas
>>
>> (713) 834-6394
>>
>>
>




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