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CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 1999 <-- November 1999 <-- 30 November 1999Subject: Re: attachments From: Phil Evans pre {- at -} MRC-LMB {- dot -} CAM {- dot -} AC {- dot -} UK Date: 2009-09-15 Thanks for that - it works! Phil On 15 Sep 2009, at 11:43, Harry Powell wrote: > Hi > > Apple mail (which is what I think Phil uses) is a bit of a nuisance > - there is no menu option to display plain text by default, > apparently (IMWBW) - you have the option to view the current message > in plain text, but you have to do this on a message-by-message basis. > > There is a non-menu option however. In a UNIX shell (i.e. on the > command line) when Mail isn't running (because apparently when it > exits it resets the defaults to what they were when it started) > type - > > defaults write com.apple.mail PreferPlainText -bool TRUE > > I googled and found something about editing ~/Library/Preferences/ > com.apple.mail.plist (double click on the icon, don't try with emacs > or vi...)and adding the following to the start of the first > dictionary:- > > > > But this is accompanied by a warning to make sure you know what you > are "doing when playing around in the XML preference files". I > don't, and I couldn't easily see what to do here. > On 15 Sep 2009, at 11:24, Ian Tickle wrote: > >> Phil >> >> Nothing at all wrong with plain text for simple messages as you >> say, but >> if you want to communicate a complicated equation (particularly one >> containing a lot of Greek letters and math symbols not in the >> standard >> ASCII set!) the HTML version is much cleaner and easier to >> understand. >> Obviously I would never try to send such an equation to the BB, I'm >> talking about private messages. The problem is remembering to switch >> back to plain text for run-of-the-mill messages (and knowing people's >> sensitivities I always try to do that!). On my client admittedly the >> option for plain text/HTML sending is in clear view, in a previous >> version it was buried deep in the menu options and had to be selected >> before you started to compose the message, and the same may well be >> true >> for other clients. >> >> The other point of course is that you're never going to be able to >> stem >> the tide! There will always be people who will use HTML even for >> simple >> messages, mostly through ignorance, and it seems to me that if the >> HTML >> version causes problems as it seems to be doing in your client, >> then the >> easiest solution is to adapt and select the 'by default view as plain >> text' option. >> >> Cheers >> >> -- Ian >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner-ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk >>> ] >> On >>> Behalf Of Phil Evans >>> Sent: 15 September 2009 10:47 >>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments >>> >>> There are two problems, I think >>> >>> 1. Sending a simple mail like this in anything other than plain text >>> is wasteful, and also enforces the sender's way of displaying it on >>> the reader, rather than following the reader's preference. >>> (That may of course be appropriate in some cases where formatting is >>> important, but not in this context) >>> >>> 2. Messages such as Norman's (and others), which seem to come from >>> Outlook Express or Exchange Server, specify a font size 3D2 >>> (whatever >>> that means) which comes out too small to read, at least for me >>> >>> The html line is:- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> On 15 Sep 2009, at 10:34, Ian Tickle wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> I had this same problem a while ago, if you recall. Modern e-mail >>>> clients sending a message in HTML format will almost certainly send >> it >>>> in 2 parts, the first a version converted to plain text and the >> second >>>> the original HTML version (and possibly other versions of the same >>>> message). This is the 'MIME multipart alternative' e-mail standard >>>> which is designed so that e-mail clients or users reading the >> message >>>> can choose the version they want to display. To quote from >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME#Alternative : "Systems can then >>>> choose >>>> the "best" representation they are capable of processing; in >> general, >>>> this will be the last part that the system can understand". >>>> >>>> So assuming your mail client is MIME-compatible (I would have >> thought >>>> that all modern clients are) there should be an option on your mail >>>> reader (as there is on mine) to always display the plain text >> version. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> -- Ian >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: owner-ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk [mailto:owner- >>>>> ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk] >>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of Phil Evans >>>>> Sent: 15 September 2009 09:59 >>>>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >>>>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] attachments >>>>> >>>>> while we're on this topic, it would be nice also if messages were >>>>> sent >>>>> in plain text, not as html (like yours, Norman :-)), particularly >> as >>>>> these ones generally come out in a tiny font in my (Apple) mail >>>>> reader, for some reason >>>>> >>>>> Phil >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 15 Sep 2009, at 09:45, Stein, Norman (STFC,DL,CSE) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the past month there have been several postings to the BB with >>>>>> large >>>>>> (100kB or more) attachments. Can I remind subscribers that it is >> our >>>>>> policy to discourage attachments as, amongst other things, they >> can >>>>>> cause mailboxes to fill at an alarming rate. A link to a website >>>>>> carrying the data which would otherwise appear in the attachment, >> is >>>>>> more appropriate. >>>>>> >>>>>> Norman Stein >>>>>> CCP4 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Scanned by iCritical. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer >>>> This communication is confidential and may contain privileged >>>> information intended solely for the named addressee(s). It may not >>>> be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been >>>> sent. If you are not the intended recipient you must not review, >>>> use, disclose, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon >>>> it. If you have received this communication in error, please notify >>>> Astex Therapeutics Ltd by emailing I.Tickle@astex-therapeutics.com >>>> and destroy all copies of the message and any attached documents. >>>> Astex Therapeutics Ltd monitors, controls and protects all its >>>> messaging traffic in compliance with its corporate email policy. >>>> The >>>> Company accepts no liability or responsibility for any onward >>>> transmission or use of emails and attachments having left the Astex >>>> Therapeutics domain. Unless expressly stated, opinions in this >>>> message are those of the individual sender and not of Astex >>>> Therapeutics Ltd. The recipient should check this email and any >>>> attachments for the presence of computer viruses. Astex >>>> Therapeutics >>>> Ltd accepts no liability for damage caused by any virus transmitted >>>> by this email. E-mail is susceptible to data corruption, >>>> interception, unauthorized amendment, and tampering, Astex >>>> Therapeutics Ltd only send and receive e-mails on the basis that >>>> the >>>> Company is not liable for any such alteration or any consequences >>>> thereof. >>>> Astex Therapeutics Ltd., Registered in England at 436 Cambridge >>>> Science Park, Cambridge CB4 0QA under number 3751674 >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> Disclaimer >> This communication is confidential and may contain privileged >> information intended solely for the named addressee(s). It may not >> be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it has been >> sent. If you are not the intended recipient you must not review, >> use, disclose, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance upon >> it. If you have received this communication in error, please notify >> Astex Therapeutics Ltd by emailing I.Tickle@astex-therapeutics.com >> and destroy all copies of the message and any attached documents. >> Astex Therapeutics Ltd monitors, controls and protects all its >> messaging traffic in compliance with its corporate email policy. >> The Company accepts no liability or responsibility for any onward >> transmission or use of emails and attachments having left the Astex >> Therapeutics domain. Unless expressly stated, opinions in this >> message are those of the individual sender and not of Astex >> Therapeutics Ltd. The recipient should check this email and any >> attachments for the presence of computer viruses. Astex >> Therapeutics Ltd accepts no liability for damage caused by any >> virus transmitted by this email. E-mail is susceptible to data >> corruption, interception, unauthorized amendment, and tampering, >> Astex Therapeutics Ltd only send and receive e-mails on the basis >> that the Company is not liable for any such alteration or any >> consequences thereof. >> Astex Therapeutics Ltd., Registered in England at 436 Cambridge >> Science Park, Cambridge CB4 0QA under number 3751674 > > Harry > -- > Dr Harry Powell, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, MRC Centre, > Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 0QH > > > CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 1999 <-- November 1999 <-- 30 November 1999 |
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