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CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 1999 <-- November 1999 <-- 30 November 1999Subject: perfect twin test From: Ben Flath bef206 {- at -} MAIL {- dot -} USASK {- dot -} CA Date: 2009-09-23 Hi Firstly thanks to all who replied to my original post. The clear consensus was to look for pseudo-symmetry. I must admit there is more to the story. Here goes the long version. Crystals are Hexagonal bi-pyramids (under ideal conditions they are very beautiful nice crisp edges etc. non ideal conditions crystals still grow however they lose the nice edges and look kind of like a football, and do not diffract well). Two different unit cells have been observed for these crystals; 1) a,b=50, c=150, 2) a,b=50, c=300. 90 90 120 The data for both cells is highly anisotropic and has apparent 622 symmetry (self rotation function). Due to the anisotropy data can only be merged to ~3 A even though there is data to ~2 A in the strong reflecting direction. There is no pseudo-symmetry detected in the small cell however there is pseudo-translation detected in the big cell: pseudo-translation vector: 0.000 0.000 0.500 (12.3%) from 'SFcheck' (what does the % mean?) Not surprisingly intensity statistics to detect twinning are kind of all over the place but xtriage does find three twin laws (alpha for all 3 laws ~0.48) and suspects the data to be twinned (in consensus with SFcheck). Using data processed in P3 at the end of xtriage log there is this statement. [ The results of the L-test indicate that the intensity statistics I have a MR model with 45% identity. No solutions are found in the big cell. In the small cell solutions can be found in P3212 and P32 ????2 and 4 mol/ASU respectively). Refinement stalls at ~42% and there is missing density for much of the model. I have attempted perfect twin refinement with CNS but I get huge divergence in R - Rfree 30 - 52. SeMet protein has been crystallized but so far has only exhibited the small cell. Sites appear to have been found with SOLVE/RESOLVE and SHELX, however the maps just look like noise. Questions: What can cause acentric data to have centric characteristic? Is there an option to do perfect twin refinement with phenix? In the absence of pseudo-symmetry is there any other hypothesis as to why data (lower res data not suffering from anisotropy) displays values near 3 for the perfect twin test? All comments, questions and suggestions welcome Sincerely Ben --------------------------------- Benjamin Flath College of Pharmacy and Nutrition University of Saskatchewan 320 Thorvaldson Building 110 Science Place Saskatoon, SK S7N 5C9 CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 1999 <-- November 1999 <-- 30 November 1999 |
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