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Subject: Re: combining AutoMR and brute
From: Randy Read rjr27 {- at -} CAM {- dot -} AC {- dot -} UK
Date: 2009-12-22

No, we haven't made that possible, largely because we can't see circumstances where this would be desirable. However, you can get as close as you want to a brute force search by changing the criteria for rescoring the results of the fast search. If you include the command

FINAL TRA SELECT PERCENT 65

(changing from the default of PERCENT 75), then all fast translation peaks greater than 0.9*65=58.5% of the maximum difference from the mean will be rescored, and, after rescoring, everything above 65% of the maximum will be kept. You can do this from ccp4i on the line labelled "Final selection criterion for TRANSLATION search peaks".

If you only want to adjust which fast translation peaks are rescored but not which are kept (which is closer to running the brute translation search), then you can include the command

FINAL TRA STEP 1 SELECT PERCENT 50

to rescore everything above 50% of the maximum from the fast translation search. To do this from ccp4i, you have to open the "Additional parameters" pane, then under "Criteria for the translation search" change "Rescore criterion".

Instead of PERCENT, you can also specify the criteria for which peaks to keep by SIGMA (i.e. Z-score), NUMBER or even ALL. So if you said

FINAL TRA STEP 1 SELECT ALL

this would essentially be like using the brute translation search, except that the sampling of points is one a fractional grid instead of the more efficient hexagonal-close-packed grid used for the brute translation search.

My feeling is that this would just be a waste of computer time. I don't think we've seen a case where rescoring anything below about 50% of the maximum has made a difference -- but would appreciate hearing otherwise if someone has had a different experience!

Best wishes,

Randy Read

On 22 Dec 2009, at 00:25, Francois Berenger wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there any way to search in AutoMR mode but have the
> translation only being brute forced?
>
> Regards,
> F.

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