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Subject: Re: MS for verification of protein constructs
From: Anastassis Perrakis a {- dot -} perrakis {- at -} NKI {- dot -} NL
Date: 2007-09-05

... all these are correct indeed - but ESI-TOF is also a nice
solution, especially coupled to an LC system.
My understanding was that MALDI-TOF is better for smaller fragments,
accuracy can be about 10 Dalton ...

for more info there is a useful short review of the use of ms
techniques for structural work in:

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2006/10/00/gx5084/index.html

(the 'spine' issue).

A.

On 5 Sep 2007, at 22:56, Joel Guenther wrote:

> If you have a very pure protein sample, you'll want to use an ESI-
> ion trap for analyzing proteins of that size. It should be
> possible to get an exact mass (i.e. within a single Da). It's
> possible, but very rare, to get exact masses of proteins up to 100
> kDa using ESI-ion trap instruments.
>
> If your sample is not highly purified, you'll need to use some type
> of TOF instrument. MALDI-TOF should work. With a TOF instrument,
> you shouldn't expect to be able to distinguish between point
> mutants of a protein, but you'll be able to get information about
> larger changes. For instance, you'll be able to determine if you
> completely cleaved a his-tag off a construct.
>
> Our lab is spoiled because we have access to the HHMI Mass Spec
> facility, but I'd imagine that there are many facilities that can
> get accurate masses on 40 kDa proteins.
>
> -Joel
>
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> Kuriyan Laboratory
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>
>
> On 9/5/07, Jacob Keller wrote:
> I second Dr. Loll's question, and would like to be CC'd in whatever
> MS tips, including
> service-providers, are sent. I have been having a bit of a debacle
> with a certain MS service provider.
>
> Jacob Keller
>
> ==============Original message text===============
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:41:52 am CDT Patrick Loll wrote:
>
> I wonder if anyone would care to share experiences/ideas/biases that
> relate to the use of mass spectrometry to verify the identity of
> protein constructs used for crystallization. Our experience with
> different MS facilities has been checquered.
>
> Specifically:
>
> What's the current thinking on the best approach to get
> masses for
> intact proteins of moderate size (say, 40 kD)? ESI-TOF?
> What kind of resolution should one hope to obtain in such
> cases
> (10E-04?)
>
> Any suggestions as to good facilities offering fee for service MS
> characterization are welcome (but should be shared off line, I think;
> continental US only).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> ---------------
> Patrick J. Loll, Ph. D.
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>
> pat.loll@drexel.edu
>
> ===========End of original message text===========
>
>
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