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Subject: Re: Commensurate superlattices in protein crystallography?
From: "Fan, Hai-fu" fanhf {- at -} CRYST {- dot -} IPHY {- dot -} AC {- dot -} CN
Date: 2007-03-15

Dear John,



I think it may necessary to collect all satellites corresponding to the 256
Angstrom axis in order to solve the structure correctly. In small-molecular
crystallography there is already straightforward way of solving
superstructures: Derive phases of main reflections (corresponding to 64
Angstroms axis in this case) by whatever manner without building any
structure models, then derive phases of satellites by a modified Sayre¡¯s
equation making use of the known phases of main reflections. I think the
same principle is also applicable to proteins although there are no programs
available yet for this purpose.



Regards,



Hai-fu





Professor Fan, Hai-fu



Institute of Physics

Chinese Academy of Sciences

Beijing 100080, P.R. China

E-mail: fanhf@cryst.iphy.ac.cn

URL: http://cryst.iphy.ac.cn





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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of John R
Helliwell
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Subject: [ccp4bb] Commensurate superlattices in protein crystallography?






Dear Colleagues,

I am currently engaged analysing a protein crystal structure which has two
unusual aspects about it, at least to me (hence this consultation).



The first oddity is the unit cell and space group:-

Triclinic P1 64.43 70.81 79.26 89.83 110.95 116.59

ie note the value of alpha very near 90 degrees. Autoindexing does offer a
C2 space group solution but, on inspection, is clearly too far from a proper
prediction. A complication that follows from the triclinic alpha near 90
degrees is the setting of the crystal and the indexing within P1 can need
altering (Phil Evans' initiative with 'pointless' solved that; thanks to
Eleanor for a pre-release alert of this software). Taking the analysis
through to a 2 derivative electron density map, with DM, was apparently fine
but the electron density connectivity was too poor to develop. I thus went
back to the diffraction patterns, image by image. This led to the second
oddity, now I believe truly odd:-



Second oddity:- some diffraction images showed a superlattice effect. These
can be neatly predicted through a doubling of the 'a'' unit cell value to
128Angstrom. This is an example of a commensurate lattice. Some of this
subset of images show a quadrupling superlattice ie where spots are
explained on a prediction of 256Angstrom for the 'a' value. Maps based on
'2a' might be ok to develop but still look 'difficult' to me re electron
density connectivity. An analysis based on '4a' is confounded by the
prediction showing nearly all spots as overlaps ie detector too close and
rotation angle too wide for a 256 Angstrom axis.



My checking of the IUCr Journals literature yields an example of an

incommensurate superlattice:-(J. Appl. Cryst. (2004). 37, 327-330 [
doi:10.1107/S0021889804001773
] Imaging modulated reflections from a semi-crystalline state of
profilin:actin crystals
,%20J.J.> J. J. Lovelace,
%20K.> K. Narayan,
J.K.> J. K. Chik ,
%20H.D.> H. D. Bellamy,
0E.H.> E. H. Snell,
,%20U.> U. Lindberg,
20C.E.> C. E. Schutt and
l,%20G.E.O.> G. E. O. Borgstahl . I am making contact with these authors.



Do colleagues on CCP4bb have similar examples and did they manage to
progress to a structure?

Best wishes and thankyou,

John




--
John R Helliwell
Professor of Structural Chemistry, The University of Manchester;





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