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Subject: Re: Web site GOOD, Attachment BAD (was: salt sensitive complex)
From: Anastassis Perrakis a {- dot -} perrakis {- at -} NKI {- dot -} NL
Date: 2008-01-31

And I cant help adding that a line graph does not need to be in 32-
bit color but 2-bit color (b/w) will do.
I know how to do that in PhotoShop but not in Image Magick, although
I am sure its trivial to do.

And here some more preaching:

Screen (eg Power Point): Do 400x400 pixels, 800x800 at most if full
screen

Submit paper: 1200x1200 is far enough to print fairly well in full
page - most journals these days truncate to less to send to referees
anyway. Dont use 32-bit color for line graphs, best is to submit
these as eps!

Accepted paper: use the formula (dpi journal recommends) x (final
intended size in inches) to decide the size in pixels.

... sorry for the trivialties.

Tassos


On Jan 31, 2008, at 10:40, Clemens Vonrhein wrote:

> To not only say what not to do, maybe also some tips on how to
> convert/resize/scale images - for Linux with Imagemagick tools.
>
> * converting between formats (PNG seems something everyone is happy
> with these days):
>
> % convert Image.jpg Image.png
>
> % ps2epsi Image.ps # gets rid of all the white border
> # fluff
> % convert Image.epsi Image.png
>
> * resizing (no need for a 3000x2000 image - 400x400 to 800x800 is
> usually big enough I guess):
>
> % convert -resize 400x400 Image.jpg Image.png
>
> * cutting a bit out of an image (makes it easier to concentrate on
> the important bit):
>
> % display Image.jpg
>
> -> left mouse click in image
> -> Transform
> -> Crop
> -> left mouse and pan (is that the right word?) to mark
> the rectangular region
> -> Crop
> -> File
> -> Save (as Image.png)
>
> * screen shot of some picture/window/plot (to show error messages,
> CCP4i input window etc etc)
>
> a) get e.g. your CCP4i loggraph window on screen
>
> b) open another terminal (make sure this terminal doesn't overlap
> with the CCP4i loggraph window) and run
>
> % import test.png
>
> c) the mouse cursor should change to a "+" sign (kind of): just
> click into the window you want to get a picture off - it will
> be saved as test.png (control with "display test.png")
>
> Lots of other tools I guess. For more info on ImageMagick see e.g.
>
> http://www.imagemagick.org/script/index.php
> http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/
>
> or
>
> % convert -help
>
> Clemens
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 08:58:04AM +0000, Frank von Delft wrote:
>> Actually, it's not book keeping, it's simple courtesy -- and not
>> only on
>> a BB: an attachment is lazy, and a large attachment is downright
>> rude.
>>
>> I am routinely stuck with a slow connection (travelling), and
>> others are
>> *permanently* stuck with one. So please be nice... ;)
>>
>> phx.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anastassis Perrakis wrote:
>>> Dear all -
>>>
>>> Sorry to intervene on a 'book keeping' issue, but indeed over the
>>> last
>>> few months an increasing number of people (Jerry is not the
>>> first, so
>>> Jerry please do not take it personally) attach pictures etc. I think
>>> in a bb standard practice dictates to only use text - if
>>> illustrations
>>> are needed to explain the problem, you can put them in eg a web
>>> site.
>>>
>>> Some text like that was in the 'code of conduct' off ccp4bb in the
>>> past, but I could no longer find it.
>>>
>>> Thus apologies if I am wrong and policies have changed, but maybe
>>> the
>>> ccp4 crowd could tell us what is the suggested policy.
>>>
>>> And, if you really want to send an image please do bother to make it
>>> small. The initial posting had a 630k image, which it took me 1
>>> min to
>>> make 20k and it still makes the point (attached so I can also
>>> violate
>>> the rules i am suggesting - I love inconsistency).
>>>
>>> Thanks, Tassos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2008, at 20:11, Jerry McCully wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for the prompt reply on this topic of salt
>>>> sensitive complex.
>>>>
>>>> Attached please find one ITC final figure done under 25mM
>>>> Tris(pH8.0), 60mM NaCl.
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned before, the ionization of Tris will interfere
>>>> with
>>>> the ITC experiments.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore I am sure of my binding results.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone give me some comments on this ITC experiment?
>>>> Basically do these two proteins bind to each other? If so, how
>>>> should
>>>> I improve the ITC experiments to get a similar affinity shown by
>>>> BIAcore(about 0.5uM)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>
>>>> Jerry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jerry,
>>>>
>>>> Tris can cause problems, you are better off using something like
>>>> HEPES, and HEPES should be ok at pH 8. (Buffers with an
>>>> ethane-sulphonic acid group tend to be the best - those
>>>> ending in
>>>> 'ES', so MES, TES and HEPES)
>>>>
>>>> FYI, the error on your K is bigger than the actual measurement -
>>>> 1.49x10^5 ± 1.5x10^5.
>>>> Signal to noise to is probably your enemy, which is making
>>>> the curve
>>>> fitting difficult. Changing buffer may help this - there may
>>>> be some
>>>> non-specific component to what you're seeing - increasing
>>>> salt a bit
>>>> or dropping in something like 5% glycerol may help with this.
>>>>
>>>> Would you be able to post a jpeg/pdf of the curve?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25/01/2008, Jerry McCully wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All:
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly I would like to thank many folks here for
>>>>> giving me
>>>> great
>>>>> ideas several days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> The following are some updates for this question.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did ITC experiments again using 25mMTris(pH8), 60mM NaCl
>>>>> (low
>>>> salt
>>>>> condition).
>>>>>
>>>>> But things still turn out to be a little weird.
>>>>>
>>>>> I increased the concentration of both proteins(60uM in the
>>>>> cell
>>>> and
>>>>> 1200uM in the syringe). At the end of the ITC, I saw a little of
>>>>> precipitation of both the proteins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately I can roughly fit the curve this time. However,
>>>>> the
>>>> heat was
>>>>> still low, around 1Kcal/mole of per injectant. I am not sure
>>>>> about
>>>> the
>>>>> fitting statistics.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> N 1.10 ±0.17
>>>>>
>>>>> K 1.49E5 ±1.5E5
>>>>>
>>>>> DH -893.5 ±213
>>>>>
>>>>> DS 20.7
>>>>>
>>>>> Was the enthalpy was offset by the ionization of Tris buffer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can I use Hepes buffer around pH8 to do ITC?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome any comments about the statistics and suggestions on how
>>>> to
>>>>> improve the ITC experiments.have a nice weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>
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