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From: Chavas Leo ccp4hnaalas {- at -} GMAIL {- dot -} COM
Date: 2008-03-12
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Subject: Re: Missing reflections
From: Simon Kolstoe s {- dot -} kolstoe {- at -} UCL {- dot -} AC {- dot -} UK
Date: 2008-03-12

Thanks for the reply,

Does this mean REFMAC/Coot does need the missing number flags (and
thus you will get improved maps ONLY if uniqueify is run) or does
REFMAC/Coot recognise when a reflection is missing and use DFc
regardless (in which case there is no point running uniqueify)?

Simon

On 12 Mar 2008, at 16:00, George M. Sheldrick wrote:

> All these programs only refine against reflections that were actually
> measured. REFMAC, but not SHELXL, provides the 'Sigma-A' weight
> coefficients for Coot to use DFc instead of 2mFo-DFc for the
> reflections
> for which Fo is not known (or is reserved for the free R) to
> calculate a
> map. This will in general improve the appearence of the map at the
> cost
> of introducing a little model bias. As far as I know these
> 'unobserved'
> reflections are not used in calculating the difference map. CNS is
> probably like SHELXL, I'm not sure what phenix.refine does.
>
> George
>
> Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS
> Dept. Structural Chemistry,
> University of Goettingen,
> Tammannstr. 4,
> D37077 Goettingen, Germany
> Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068
> Fax. +49-551-39-2582
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Simon Kolstoe wrote:
>
>> Dear CCP4bb,
>>
>> I was looking through the REFMAC manual today and found the
>> following advice:
>>
>> "Completing the data to include all possible hkls. Should do this
>> after data
>> reduction, and certainly before using REFMAC. This is now done with
>> the
>> uniqueify script. It is best done using CCP4i."
>>
>> http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/html/refmac5/usage/examples.html#exam0
>>
>> Is it a good idea to always run uniqueify on data before running
>> REFMAC - what
>> about other refinement programs such as SHELX, CNS or phenix.refine?
>>
>> Simon
>>

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