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Re: [ccp4bb] translation of atom sites and maps

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Subject: Re: translation of atom sites and maps
From: Bernhard Rupp bernhardrupp {- at -} SBCGLOBAL {- dot -} NET
Date: 2008-08-06

I think you can find this also from the tables directly.
The origin statement says

Origin at 23

i.e. on *any* special position with PGS 23

there are 4 of them in F23: 4a, 4b, 4c, 4d.

They are listed at the end of the position table and
of course agree with what Ian derived.

BR

-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Ian
Tickle
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] translation of atom sites and maps

Hi David

No F23 has 4 alternate non-equivalent origins (i.e. invariant amplitudes,
different phases):

(0, 0, 0)
(1/4, 1/4, 1/4)
(1/2, 1/2, 1/2)
(3/4, 3/4, 3/4)

You can of course have other combinations of these by adding any of the
4 F-centring translations.

You can work this out from this table:
http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/cheshirecell.html

For F23 (in the list on the right, 2 lines from the bottom) you see that the
Cheshire space group is I-centred (Im3m in the 1st column) and the Cheshire
cell is (a/2, b/2, c/2). The lattice translation gives the origin at (1/2,
1/2, 1/2) and the combination of this with the I centring of the Cheshire SG
gives the origins at (1/4, 1/4, 1/4) & (3/4, 3/4, 3/4).

HTH!

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