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From: Filip Van Petegem filip {- dot -} vanpetegem {- at -} GMAIL {- dot -} COM
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Subject: Re: Puzzling protein-protein interaction
From: Brett Collins b {- dot -} collins {- at -} IMB {- dot -} UQ {- dot -} EDU {- dot -} AU
Date: 2008-09-03

Dear Artem,

Sorry I didn't want to scare people with too may details.

The pulldowns and ITC were done with the same protein samples
expressed in bacteria and purified by the usual ways. For both mutant
and wildtype the stoichiometry from ITC was approximately 1:1 (from
about 0.85 to about 1.15 range). The ITC experiment was performed
over a period of an hour using 18 injections (i.e about 180 second
delay between injections and the signal clearly reached baseline
again between injections). The pulldowns were perfomed over a similar
time period using several washes of His tagged protein + ligand
protein bound to beads.

Perhaps the only clear difference is that the pulldowns were done in
20 mM Hepes pH 7.5 while the ITC was done in 20 mM Tris pH 8.0 (both
with 150 mM NaCl, 1mM DTT). I imagine that the pH may make a
difference - but I am not convinced by this explanation. I would
still expect to see qualitatively the same result (reduction in
binding) at slightly higher pH.

Thanks,
brett



On 03/09/2008, at 7:00 AM, artem@xtals.org wrote:

> Dear Brett,
>
> What was the value of N in your experiments? Did you get a clear "1"
> (well, typically 0.8-0.9 is good enough)? Were there differences in N
> between the two experiments? (Probably not but I'd rather ask).
>
> What was peak integration time for the ITC experiment, and how does it
> compare with incubation time used in pull-downs?
>
> How exactly were the pulldowns set up? Did you use pure protein or
> was it
> an extract of some sort?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Artem
>
>> Dear CCP4 Community,
>>
>> My apologies for the non-crystallography biochemical
>> question but it occurred to me that there are many people
>> on this list who are also very good biochemists.
>>
>> We have just performed an ITC experiment with two proteins
>> and measured a Kd of 150 nM, deltaH of -15 kCal/mol,
>> deltaS of -15 Cal/mol/K and deltaCp of -2000 J/Mol/K.
>>
>> We also measured the binding of a mutant of one of these
>> proteins predicted from crystal structure to inhibit
>> binding of a small fragment of peptide (this is predicted
>> to reduce binding slightly but not to affect total binding
>> as there is still a large interaction interface that is
>> left intact).
>>
>> This mutant has a Kd of 150 nM as well, but deltaH is -10
>> kCal/mol, delta S is essentially zero, and deltaCp reduces
>> in magnitude to about -1500 J/Mol/K as we would predict
>> from the change of buried surface area. The ITC data looks
>> good and we have repeated the experiments a number of
>> times so they are statistically significant. The
>> experiments were performed within reasonable concentration
>> limits (~10uM protein in the cell so the C-value is about
>> 50-100)
>>
>> Now the puzzle is that the mutant binds less strongly in
>> pulldowns (about 50% reduction after several washes) but
>> we see an almost identical Kd by ITC despite major changes
>> in enthalpy/entropy contributions to binding. The mutant
>> and wildtype appear to have identical fold by CD but of
>> course there may be small differences. Everything makes
>> sense except the lack of Kd change by ITC.
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience of similar results, or
>> more importantly have a possible explanation for them?
>>
>> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Brett Collins
>>
>

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