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From: "S {- dot -} Thiyagarajan" tyahaa {- at -} YAHOO {- dot -} COM
Date: 2008-10-03

Thanks all for your inputs.

Most sophisticated ones are those using database servers.

1.Xtrack   http://xray.bmc.uu.se/xtrack
 uses PostgreSQL and PHP

2. CLIMS  http://sourceforge.net/projects/clims/
 uses MySQL server.

To install the database servers and to keep it running, creating users, granting privileges for users ... requires good deal of DB knowledge. At the student level, this is not good as the boss may not be conversant with these SQL servers and may loose data in the absence of technical assistance.

Simple JAVA based tools
1. http://www.pageforaday.com/xtalwizard/

To design plates
2. http://www.ibs.fr/content/ibs_eng/presentation/Platform/plateform_Xtallo/

I would prefer excel sheets as there is more room to improvise

Finally, what I think is feasible for everyone is the MS-Access file created by  Victor Khangulov.
https://jshare.johnshopkins.edu/xythoswfs/webui/_xy-2846190_1-t_CF606nvb

Access being a Microsoft product, it is more likely to be present in many computers. This can generate paper reports for logging and there is room for improving it to our needs.

Thanks again for your inputs. Comments on the various tools are my personal opinion and are to be re-evaluated by the individual users (A disclaimer of course )
regards
S. Thiyagarajan



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--- On Thu, 9/11/08, S. Thiyagarajan wrote:
From: S. Thiyagarajan
Subject: [ccp4bb] log tools for crystallization conditions
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 11:16 AM

Hello Everyone

I wonder whether somebody knows a good software to log the crystallization conditions.

Excel sheets become too clumsy as the crystallization plates pile up.

we generally need to record the results after a day, two days, a week, 2 weeks, a month etc.

We need to summarize at regular intervals and keep log of our rationales in designing the new set of conditions.

When moving on, somebody else taking up the project should be able to follow everything done by the previous researcher.

The software supplied by "Hauptman-Woodward" screen (Buffalo, NY) is good, but we cannot integrate our in-house custom results. Also, that does not give options for summary at regular intervals and an overall summary.

any inputs will be highly useful

regards
S. Thiyagarajan
Wayne State University
Detroit,
MI USA












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