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CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 1999 <-- November 1999 <-- 30 November 1999Subject: Re: Crystallographic computing platform recommendations? From: Kevin Cowtan cowtan {- at -} YSBL {- dot -} YORK {- dot -} AC {- dot -} UK Date: 2008-11-18 From a system management point of view there is one very significant benefit to Ubuntu: The LTS releases come out every 2 years and are supported for 3 years. Compare this with Fedora: releases are only supported for 18 months. Once you take into account testing and transition times, that means in practice with Fedora you are on a 1-year upgrade cycle, versus 2 years with Ubuntu. (I used Fedora for years on my desktop machines and more recently Ubuntu on my laptops. It did take a couple of days getting used to the differences, but I find now that I prefer the setup of the Ubuntu system). Andreas Förster wrote: > Re: Switching from Fedora to Ubuntu. > > Don't. Stick with Fedora if it works for you. If you're tempted by > Ubuntu because of the coolness, the bling, the color, the limited > customizability or the lack of root, a Mac will get you all of this much > more abundantly. > > If you're used to Redhat/Fedora, stick with it. Everything > crystallography related works on it. I tried to set an ancient Vaio up > with xUbuntu and went back to Redhat 9 after too much frustration. > Things are not where they're supposed to be and don't work as they > should. This is from a Redhat perspective, obviously, which I've been > using since 5.2. > > > Andreas > > > > Edward Snell wrote: >> That would have saved me a lot of time and frustration! Now if only I >> can remember this for the next time J >> >> >> I have a 64bit Fedora 9 system running on an Lenovo Thinkstation D10 – >> you can buy this without the operating system. I used the 64bit >> option as I’m processing very high resolution X-ray data and needed to >> use more memory. I was able to get a 16 GB system for a reasonable cost. >> >> >> >> If you are a tinkerer and want a few days of ‘fun’ this is a way to >> go. If not, commercially available Linux systems are available but I >> found few with a large memory capacity. >> >> >> Coot and CCP4 were a pain to compile in 64 bit mode (not the >> developers problem, just mine for trying to get them to work in 64 >> bit). I had to play with some header definitions, lop h’s off etc, >> add using namespace std and, install a lot of libraries but they now >> work well. Coot reads all the svg files and displays all the pretty >> icons. I like the PC Linux route mainly because the hardware is less >> expensive and easier to swap out components. I am used to Fedora and >> manage my own system so for the moment I plan to stick with that but >> it sounds like Ubuntu looks like an interesting way to go. Has anyone >> had any experiences in transitioning from Fedora to Ubuntu? Is it >> something to think about, a Thanksgiving project mainly? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Eddie >> >> Edward Snell Ph.D. >> Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, SUNY Buffalo, >> Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute >> 700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102 >> Phone: (716) 898 8631 Fax: (716) 898 8660 >> Email: esnell@hwi.buffalo.edu Telepathy: 42.2 GHz >> >> Heisenberg was probably here! >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] *On Behalf >> Of *Michel Fodje >> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:28 AM >> *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK >> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Crystallographic computing platform >> recommendations? >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 09:40 -0500, James M. Vergis wrote: >> >> >> >> 2) Graphics Cards: >> >> I like the Nvidia cards since they provide linux drivers. ATI also does >> >> now. I would say the only thing I don't like about them is when you do a >> >> kernel update you have to remake the driver. >> >> I would just add that for those using Fedora, you can avoid having to >> remake the driver by using the RPMFusion repositories to install the >> Nvidia drivers. This way updating the kernel automatically installs >> the corresponding Nvidia kernel module. The same applies to AMD/ATI >> drivers. >> > CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 1999 <-- November 1999 <-- 30 November 1999 |
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