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CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 2007 <-- May 2007 <-- 11 May 2007Subject: Re: CCP4 GUI From: "F {- dot -} Xavier Gomis-Rüth" xgrcri {- at -} IBMB {- dot -} CSIC {- dot -} ES Date: 2007-05-11 tostill run the programs on a command basis in the future. Xavier Luddite Martyn Winn wrote: >This is timely. We're in the process of a) trying to organise a major >effort to tidy up the existing ccp4i classic (rather than fire-fighting >problems), and b) thinking about designing the next generation. Not sure >which this is. Option b) would be a project over several years. > >Can you elucidate further. As an expert user, would you want a less >scary free text box (which is essentially what Run&View Com File is), or >actual widgets for every option. The latter could be done as a hidden >folder, made visible according to an Expert switch in Preferences. > >As developers, we also have to think about long-term maintainability. >Options, in particular little-used options, can soon become out-of-date. > >m > > >On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 12:41 +0200, Miguel Ortiz Lombardia wrote: > > >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>Hash: SHA1 >> >>Dear all, >> >>I'm a well-known luddite as Eleanor says. However, I shamelessly confess >>that the CCP4 GUI is great. Not that I think this is necessary here, I'm >>sure most people agree with that. >> >>If I write now is because Martynn's e-mail have reminded me of something >>I thought once, but forgot to ask for to the ccp4i developpers: perhaps >>the GUI could have "two faces/modes", a basic one and an expert/advanced >>one. I understand that they already exist, but the "expert" one is >>hidden under the "Run&View Com File", while I'm thinking on a real >>expert GUI-mode. Users should be able to choose one or the other in >>their defaults, or switch from one to the other on-the-fly. >> >>I don't have a particular problem in editing the scripts as it is done >>now, but I have found that students tend to get a bit nervous about >>doing it themselves ;-) >> >>Cheers, >> >> >>Miguel >> >>Martyn Winn escribió: >> >> >>>The level of detail in the GUI is a matter of constant debate. The >>>underlying programs are far far richer, so the question is how much to >>>expose in the GUI. We try to get a balance between ease-of-use and >>>coverage, but it won't always work. BTW I don't think we ever claimed >>>that ccp4i (or anything else in ccp4) is "finished" ;-) >>> >>>Having said that, we're always happy to hear about specific defects in >>>the GUI. When reporting these to ccp4@dl.ac.uk please give as much >>>information as possible, in particular knowing the context is always >>>helpful. >>> >>>Cheers >>>Martyn >>> >>> >>> > > > -- CCP4bb navigationCCP4bb <-- 2007 <-- May 2007 <-- 11 May 2007 |
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